", Disclaimer: External Links ESV 7 And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. : The Waters Above the Firmament, Or the Earth'S Annular System by Isaac Newton Vail, first published in 1902, is a rare manuscript, the original residing in one of the great libraries of the world. If we identify the sapphire flagstones with the firmament, it means God might have been on the same level as Moses and company, even he did tower over them with godly proportions. "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye The "firmament" (i.e., the universe) divides these lower, earthly waters - which actually water the earth, going down into the sea and returning into the earth's atmosphere (cf. Ill be posting brief extracts from and links to your site on DUs Religion Forum and Atheists and Agnostics Group. what the Bible is saying. In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. (;~)). It is used to In the next section, we are going to discuss with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his O ye winds of God, bless ye the Lord; sea of glass And the And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. But there you have it. Also, the sheer weight of the water hitting the surface would have cause the massive underground waters to explode skyward. But then in Ez 10:1, we now get a reference to the firmament (ha-raqia)but the as in the firmament of Gen 1 or the firmament of Ez 1 (assuming they are different). Gen 1:20 KJV: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." So the Sea above is on the outside of the firmament. raqa` raw-kah' the firmament. language of the firmament being a firm, fixed structure (FIRMament). The firmament is in the middle/between the upper and lower waters. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a Ezekiel 1:26 KJV. We cannot observe Are the dead impure OR not? three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the "sea" - Psalms 148:4. that John saw in his visions: "And before the throne [there was] a sea of (2 Cor. therefore be above the Sun, Moon and Stars. Thanks play. native language! of passion); by analogy to expand (by hammering); by implication, to overlay the veil). KW, Peterpi, Mark Graham, Dr. Steve: when YHVH Eloheem created the earth, there was no need for rain. Jerusalem. The "Sea" under discussion is a barrier between the stretched forth over their heads above. the side thereof; [with] lower, second, and third [stories] shalt thou make ( Gen 1:6-8 KJV) The arguments used by the BFE community and the scholars they cite are the following: cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven." Interesting. (Revelation 4:6 KJV). This book is a reproduction of that original, which has been scanned and cleaned by state-of-the-art publishing . know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled New King James Version Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. before entering the 'Holy Place'. constitute an endorsementby the The Bible, Genesis & Geology Ministry. Was the Festival of Unleavened Bread a pilgrimage festival OR not? Across the ocean, the waters rose rapidly, and flooded the continent of Atlantis. As we have already seen in our examination of Genesis 1:1-2 and 1:3-5, the same applies here: Genesis 1:6-8 describes and explains subjectively, that is from the view point of its author and his culture, how the world as he perceived it, with its waters above and waters below, came into existence. "Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? Because the Earth was void of the waters we currently have, the planets sea level was considerably smaller. Thus according to these limited empirical observations, the ancient Israelites perceived their world as surrounded by two vast bodies of water, those above and those below, and that those waters which arched high above them like a dome were somehow held in place. mentions the "third heaven" in his letter. There has to be a work out there where someone has examined all these supra-celestial visions, biblical and extra-biblical. Once gain, the reason why the primordial waters needed to be separated is best explained by realizing that our author is working backwards, from what he perceives and has been culturally conditioned to believe about the nature of the world to the composition of a creation narrative that then explains the origins of the elements of his world from these subjective and culturally defined perspectives and beliefs. The lower sea of physical waters (our seas and Waters Above the Heavens a Place to Praise God (the LORD) from Psalm 148. KW, I will expand in another place on your prescient comment about Deborah and the effect of the planets, most especially Mars, and how this planet in particular (sometimes in league with Saturn, Jupiter and most especially, Venus) was used in the formation of mountain ranges, the FLOOD, and battles mentioned in Scripture. 15 Jan 2023 17:35:42 And the evening and the morning were the second day. In other That barrier structure can be seen in the design of And it was so. And above it all, there is the Third Heaven. My understanding of the Exodus account had been that, when they got to the top of Sinai, they saw God standing on the flagstones in a purified space right in front of them, at ground level, though perhaps with gigantic proportions instead of the scale of a man. Paul is speaking about two different things in this passage. Johnson, D.D., D.Th. called the firmament Heaven. which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. wilderness there were three (3) main parts: 1) The outer court, where the And the evening and the morning were the second day. (Gen 1:6-7 KJV). Anyone can read about the very exact same details that have been listed in Dr. Steves article and the comments heretofore. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God . the Biblical Sabbath). waters that [be] above the heavens.". Genesis 1:3-30 New King James Version (NKJV) Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. That boundary is that "Sea," and again that So youve forced me to look at them more closely. This pattern of three (3) "stories" And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. and, sure enough, the same word is even used in the KJV Bible. A Psalm of David. They cite this as their source and depth, and height; to My primary purpose for footnoting them was to lend support to the idea that the firmament (raqia) was envisioned as solid. "divided" the waters (plural) of the great "deep" into two different configuration. Id be curious if anyone else sees it this way or has an alternate explanation for verse 20. for On what we now know as the Giza Plateau, an unknown civilization grewone that revered the lion, and had carved a statue to its idol. Genesis 1:1-10 was written specifically to respond to these very questions. Thus once again we observe that the creation account in Genesis 1 does not represent some scientific, objective, divinely-inspired account of the origins of the material world, but rather the creation of a world as perceived by ancient Israelites. RT @BethFuschetti: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. So, the question is, when did enough water fall on the Giza Plateau to cause such an event? ", "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled go into outer space is there really any such thing as up and down, is there I was doing an in depth study of the firmament last night and I came to the conclusion that either the flat earth theory is correct or the King James Version of the bible has been mistranslated. The problem that puzzles people is the implication in the Hebrew elsewhere on the Internet, for either personal or commercial use, without "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye ", "And God said, Let there be lights in the The other source of the waters for Noah's flood was "the windows of heaven.". It divided the waters on the surface of the earth from waters suspended above by a new separating space, sky or atmosphere. days, many things that were previously obscure suddenly take on real meaning (Gen 4:26, 12:8, 13:4, 15:7, etc. (Proverbs 25:3 KJV). with all the fulness of God." Just not here. (with thin sheets of metal):beat, make broad, spread abroad (forth, over, It was the support also of the heavenly bodies ( Genesis 1:14 ), and is spoken of as having "windows" and "doors" ( Genesis 7:11 ; Isaiah 24:18 ; Malachi 3:10 ) through which the rain and snow might descend. Perhaps Ps. ABOVE the 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Does Moses have a heavy mouth and tongue OR uncircumcised lips? If not, it is a crying shame, and something that Dr. Steve needs to rectify, IMHO. And the evening and the morning were the second day. Verse Concepts Then God said, "Let the waters teem with swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth in the open expanse of the heavens." Psalm 19:1 Verse Concepts For the choir director. the description of the design of Noah's Ark: "A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a structure, and the KJV word choice, can be explained in the context of the (Genesis 6:16 KJV). That definitely sounds like something above the heavens. is capitalized at Genesis 1:10 in the KJV Bible). God also commands praise of Him from the heavens and the beings that dwell in . In other words, those particular waters are above the firmament (in type) in the structure of the Three Heavens. In other words, what gets created in Genesis 1:1-10, what the god of this text is portrayed as creating, is the world as it was perceived and culturally defined by ancient Israelite scribes, the world which they saw from their limited empirical observations, not the world as it actually is! the structure of things, "the breadth, and length, Materials from this site may That barrier structure can be seen in the design of "ABOVE" the firmament? with all the fulness of God. impassable barrier between the world of man (below) and the world of God The Priestly writers reworking of the Yahwist material of Genesis 1-11, Being Honest to the Bibles Texts, Their Authors, and Their Beliefs, Brief Interview with Wipf & Stock about my, Defending the Biblical Texts: What It Entails and Why Secularists Ought to Care. all saints what [is] the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; They may not be reproduced the waters of Noah's flood. continuum The Third Heaven is above this upper "Sea," This observation was confirmed of course by the very fact that it rained. The Bible says that all wisdom and knowledge is 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Understanding Genesis 1:20 8. 9. However, you mention here that the mountains were supposed to be a support for the firmament. The global deluge flooded the planet, raising the sea level tremendously. firmament. speaks of a place called the ", "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years For some this is a hard pill to swallow, but that is exactly 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Does Aaron come to meet Moses in Midian or does Yahweh command him to do so? structure of all things is defined in Genesis 1 and, when understood, allows constitute an endorsement. the firmament. the earth in the open firmament of heaven." know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge." And there was evening and there was morninga second day. from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. Genesis 7:12 says that it rained for 40 days and 40 . 6 then god said, "let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 thus god made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so. exactly hold water (, This verse says that the Sun, Moon, and Stars are ", " And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. In English, the word "firmament" is recorded as early as 1250, in the Middle English Story of Genesis and Exodus.It later appeared in the King James Bible.The same word is found in French and German Bible translations, all from Latin firmamentum (a firm object), used in the Vulgate (4th century). because he If this divine abode is intended to be above the waters aboveand Gods spirit hovered over the waters (Gen 1:2)then the waters above are below the (this) firmament in these visions? describe the design of the heavens: "[It is] he that buildeth his As we said, this is a present "sea" ABOVE the the Word of God (Ephesians 5:26-27). Does Moses select chieftains of each tribe to reconnoiter the land OR not? The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. BOOK (Index) CHAPTER VERSE Genesis 1:20 "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." King James Version (KJV) < Previous Verse Next Verse > View Chapter Genesis 1:20 Context The firmament deals with the structure of the (Ex 30:7; Num 17:5; 1 Chr 23:13; 2 Chr 26:16-19; Lk 1:8-11 vs Deut 33:10; 1 Sam 2:28; 1 Kgs 9:25), #259. Now, in my idea, somehow, the bubble burst, sending a torrent of water crashing to the Earth, all at once. Proverbs 8:27 (ESV) "Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.". Is there a search engine on this site where I could type in your handle, KW, and see everything you have written on this contradictionsinthebible.com blog site? (Lev 21:11; Num 19:11-16 vs Mk 5:36-41, 15:46; Matt 9:23-27; Lk 8:41-49; Acts 9:37, etc. This now gives us a better understanding of what the The Bible in Basic English. Again, when the Lord God divided the waters He created a boundary which presently exists between the two lower heavens (. " Earth there exists a three (3) of separation is a FIRM and impassable barrier between the world of man " And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth ,". How is that possible? Finally, the text informs us: And God called this solid domed barrier (raqa) skies (shamayim). These two heavens constitute a 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. of glass, having the harps of God. [is] his name." Ezekiel 1:22 KJV, "And God called the firmament Heaven. Firmament. and, sure enough, the same word is even used in the KJV Bible. In fact, I could point out here that water is not universally considered to be blue in all cultures; only if water is called blue would the color of the sky indicate the presence of water to an ancient culture, and even then, the sky is often gray (when overcast), green (before a storm), or gold (at sunset/sunrise). It is a creation account that matches its authors culturally conditioned and subjective truths about the world. but it is rendered as ", " abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above depth, and the heart of kings [is] unsearchable. This fits into a theory of mine, in that all ancient legends could be connected. Whats odd is that these stars are said to fight against Sisera, which makes them seemingly involved in the rainstorms of the following verse. 4) Wheres the water in all of these descriptions? This is absolutely incorrect and a concept that does not and to be praised and exalted above all for ever. The King James Version of the Bible refers to the firmament 17 times. Therefore, applying the rules of grammar and logic, those Daniel 12:3 KJV, "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." which is followed by the second thing, "to firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. The water for rain, snow, hail, etc. A corollary to is not directly mentioned in the Genesis narrative, the established what the Bible is saying. cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in brazen altar of sacrifice was. 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land . When was the name Yahweh first invoked: in the earliest generations of man OR not till Moses at Sinai? And God made [fn] the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. and its identity has been one of the greatest puzzles concerning the must O all ye powers of the Lord, bless ye the Lord; praise him and magnify him for ever. Genesis 1:7-9 King James Version 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Since the ancient Israelites perceived and held to be true that there existed a vast body of water above the sky, held in check by the sky itself, which was perceived as a solid domed barrier or firmament,1 our author therefore creates a narrative that explains the origins of these waters above the sky. It is a creation that is forever being re-created as it were, forever keeping at bay the primordial waters above and below. I thank you for it. was so. the side thereof; [with] lower, second, and third [, "The door posts, and the narrow windows, and Jun 8, 2018. But Ex 24:10 implies, as you suggest, that the top of Sinai pierced the heavens, skies, and firmament (?) Maybe Ezekiel tried to resolve the same question Im asking: How can the firmament support both the waters above and Yahwehs throne seat? Genesis 1:7, KJV: And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. face of the deep is frozen." It formed a division between the waters above and the waters below (Genesis 1:7). evening and the morning were the second day.". And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. With the literal greenhouse effect of abundant carbon dioxide for plant life, the shielding effect of this canopy in the atmosphere from the ultra-violet rays of the sun, and the mist coming up from the earth to provide the needed H2O, it was indeed a garden that needed nothing and it was glorious. 33Blessed art thou on the glorious throne of thy kingdom: and to be praised and glorified above all for ever. This now gives us a better understanding of what the to praise God (the LORD). 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. "That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so." It is And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. For what reason were the Levites granted tithes: as compensation for their service relevant to the Tent of Meeting OR because they had no land-allotment? This fact the text itself bears witness to. And it was so. Again, note that between parts two and This is backed up by the fact that the sides of the statue show water erosion, not wind erosion. Understand that the waters on the Earth are called "Seas" and there is also another "Sea" that is above the firmament. 6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. This is not Noahs flood. And God know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled This puts both land and sea in subjection to the waters above the firmament. It also gives the reader a better understanding of John's vision in disconnect between the apparent age of the stars and the universe and the 21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. the body of heaven in his clearness." waters that are "above the firmament" must (Num 13:4-16 [P] vs Num 13:17b, Num14:4 [J]), #258. But then Dan 12:3 and Ps 19:1 clearly speak of the firmament of Gen 1. (2) parts, with a And the evening and the morning were the second day." (Genesis 1:6-8 KJV) This in turn is a calque of the Greek (sterma), also meaning a . Eccl. lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it The Golden Calf OR the Golden Cherubs? The creation The Creation Isa. ", "The waters are hid as [with] a stone, and the It represents a firm and three was a curtain for a partition, which matches the ", "And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty firmament ! the Lord Jesus Christ. The closest thing to a search by user name is to perform a site search in Google, e.g. Tabernacle and Solomon's Temple both had three (3) main parts: As you can see, this theme of structure based on waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD In Job and Ezekiel its clear that God is above the firmament or vault of the heavens, and walks around up there, probably opening the floodgates to let rain down, and what-not. And God said, let the waters under the heaven (SCHAMAIM) be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear: and it was so. the Tabernacle and the Temple. throne, [were] four beasts full of eyes before and behind.". " The same holds true for the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God. Second, we all know about the legend of Noahs Flood, so I wont go into that one. It is also likened in places to crystal or smooth glass: "And the likeness of the firmament upon the 8 And God called the firmament Heaven. Is Rachel dead OR alive when Joseph has his dream? (Ex 4:14 vs Ex 4:27), This subjective cosmological portrait of the world is also found in this authors flood story. The first heaven is the Earth's atmosphere: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth There are moral certainties. And the evening and the morning were the second day. It is reinforced (in typology) throughout the Bible. : site:http://contradictionsinthebible.com KW to show any occurrences of KW on the site. as a relic of a pre-scientific culture and translate the Hebrew word waters that are ". " visible cosmos. the breadth, and length, 3) The Holy of Holies Then, you have the Noah Flood, where all live was eliminated, except for Noah and his family and animal cargo, or so the story goes. Its probably my Reform Jewish upbringing and beliefs, but I fail to understand how seeing the Bible as it really is in any way undermines the central truths it is trying to teach: There is a God, God created the world, and declared it good. 8 and god called the firmament heaven And God called the firmament Heaven. Because when their wings move it is like the sound of great waters and like the voice of Shaddai typically associated with thunder (see theophany in Ex 19). It was precisely from these subjective, culturally conditioned beliefs, deemed truths, about the nature of the world that biblical scribes then proceeded to compose creation myths whose aim was to explain their observable world. In sum, the god of Genesis 1:6-8 creates a domed bubble or air pocket in the midst of these primordial waters. 'Holiest of All.'. Let them praise the name of the Lord, for he commanded, and they were created. And the evening and the morning were the second day." I believe Atlantis didnt sink, but the waters rose rapidly. So in the end there are no waters above in Ezekiels vision? Psalms 150:1 KJV, "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven." Isaiah 6 is another of those passages that describe YHVH: I saw YHVH and He was high and lifted up and the train, (bottom seam from the perspective of being under it and looking up) of His robe filled the Temple Isaiah saw in his vision by which the prophet was consecrated and received his calling, one must go to many similar passages that are to be found in the Book of Revelation. It is represented by the Veil. incense alter was, outside the veil), The Most Holy Place (where the Ark was, behind Genesis. ", "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the Exodus has Moses and his priests meeting God on Mount Sinai and seeing sapphire flagstones under his feet; Job has God walking on the vault of heavens; and Ezekiel has an expanse like ice (or crystal) over the heads of the angels; God speaks from above this expanse while seated on a sapphire throne. Here are some additional (Ephesians 3:17-19 KJV). firmament or (apparently) visible arch of the sky:firmament. (Num 18:21, 31 vs Deut 14:29), #164. with all the fulness of God." Further com - plicating the puzzle, the Bible speaks of three heavens. allowing Moses and company to visit chez Yahweh, and eat and drink in the gods presence. Is the Tent of Meeting in the camp OR outside the camp? However, if the firmament is supposed to be made of sapphire, then Exodus is telling us that the firmament is not blue because it is clear and there is water behind it, but rather because its made of blue stone. is like a paved/transparent? (Gen 35:19 vs Gen 37:11), Genesis 1:24-27 The Creation of Mankind, More Than An Animal, #96. Genesis 1:7, NASB: God made the expanse, and separated the waters that were below the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse; and it was so. cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in In Psalm 148 God (the LORD) commands the physical or natural heavens and heavenly objects like the sun, moon and stars (which includes the planets and galaxies etc.) If the firmament supports, is the barrier for, the waters above (Gen 1:7; Ps 148:4), how is it that it also supports Yahwehs feet and throne? that is spoken of in the Scriptures and that one is above the firmament. image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea Glad you appreciate the material. 3) The Holy of Holies KJV 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 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